Some observations on agents from a lot of time spent installing, using, debugging and building things with OpenClaw, Hermes, etc. - Most people who rave about OpenClaw, HermesAgent etc. have not actually used it. Facts. - Agents are developer products today. They are so so so far from being consumer grade in terms of delight, simplicity, reliability etc. - I wish the agents generated more dynamic interfaces. Don't give me chat. Give me interactive, dynamic apps/webpages. I suspect this will be a next big vector of innovation. - The agents are ultimately a wrapper to code-generation and tool-calling....not to "generative AI". This is important to grok. These agents are doing most of their "work" through iterative tool calling. - Once you understand the core loop behind agentic AI, old school "chat AI" doesn't make sense. The idea of an "always-on" agent that actually adapts, learns and maintains state is a LOT more compelling than a one-off chat prompt. The latter feels much more like a search query. - So much of mangling with agents today is basically setting it up to use browsers and/or your computer. And there are so many constraints! - Installing and running openclaw feels a lot like running Linux in the early 2000s. You spend a lot of time compiling device drivers, setting up configurations etc. You feel a real sense of accomplishment from jerry-rigging everything together but it is a LOT of work to get to the point of utility
关于 agent 的一些观察，来自我花了大量时间安装、使用、debug（调试）以及用 OpenClaw、Hermes 等搭东西的经验。—— 大多数对 OpenClaw、HermesAgent 等赞不绝口的人，其实并没有真正用过它。事实如此。—— 如今的 agent 还是开发者产品。无论在愉悦感、简洁性、可靠性等方面，它们距离 consumer grade（消费级）都还差得非常非常远。—— 我希望这些 agent 能生成更多动态界面。别只给我 chat（聊天界面），给我可交互、动态的 app / webpage（应用 / 网页）。我怀疑这会是下一个重要的创新方向。—— 这些 agent 归根结底是 code-generation（代码生成）和 tool-calling（工具调用）的 wrapper（封装）……而不是“generative AI（生成式 AI）”本身。理解这一点很重要。这些 agent 的大部分“工作”，实际上都是通过迭代式工具调用完成的。—— 一旦你理解了 agentic AI（智能体式 AI）背后的核心循环，老派的“chat AI”就显得不太说得通了。相比一次性的聊天 prompt（提示词），那种“always-on（始终在线）”、能够真正适应、学习并维持 state（状态）的 agent，要有吸引力得多。后者更像是一条搜索查询。—— 如今折腾 agent 的很大一部分，本质上就是把它配置好，让它能使用浏览器和/或你的电脑。而且限制多得惊人！—— 安装并运行 openclaw 的感觉，很像在 2000 年代初运行 Linux。你会花很多时间编译设备驱动、设置各种配置等。把一切东拼西凑起来时，你会有一种真正的成就感，但要走到“真正有用”那一步，工作量实在太大了。